TYLER PERRY AWFUL

Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 225 Location: Pittsburgh

I for one feel that della reese would have made an excellant Madea. I just feel that hollywood has too many wonderful black actresses that could have made this role more believable. One of the problems with our people that is rarely talked about is black womens fascination with gay men. Black women will defend tyler perry as if he was their sister. And dont tell them luther was gay, They will burn your house down! Rolling Eyes

Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 947 Location: Pittsburgh

WillBright said

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And now that's he's GOT money ... the guy's wealthy, no doubt ... he COULD go off and do something "deep." But obviously he doesn't have it in him, because here we go with another Madea flick.

I'd come to the conclusion that most black folks only like to be preached to on Sundays. For the majority of black folks who support his movies in the first place. They don't want an edgy or thought-provoking movie, they just want to laugh and dance in their seats when the music plays!

He can make his movies more over the top, but why? Why is it so surprising to see a black man put money before his own true beliefs? It's all about getting over!

Sad to say, there could be three more Tyler Perry's in the movie industry and they'll all make money! Just like three liquor store's on the same block in the hood!

Joined: 02 May 2004 Posts: 8322 Location: Pittsburgh PA

groovey wrote:

MaggotEater wrote:

You actually think a movie can destroy the image and respect of black people?

You aren't giving them much credit are you?
It is no secret how hollywood has treated black people. Im not saying it destroys our image but young people look to popular culture and follow trends. You wont see jews portrayed as buffoons who dance around in mismatching clothes and speaking jibberish. What they (hollywood) used to do blatantly, They get a black person who is only interested in money to do. We often look to the small players and overlook the ones who control them. "THE EVIL EMPIRE". Then again we dont have an anti-defamation league to speak for us.

MaggotEater

Mel Brooks portrayed Jews as goofballs and so did Richard Lewis. The blue-collar fuck heads aren't hurting the blue collar folks are they?

Anti-defamation league because someone portrays a race in a movie in a manner that you don't like?

So, since young people follow trends we should stop something? Last time I checked the trend wasn't thinking that blacks dress as women in real life. Who knows. Maybe I'm wrong.

Just tell your kids it is lame.

No white dude is going to judge you based upon what he saw in a Tyler Perry movie. That is, if a white dude ever wanted to watch one. I've seen previews and commercials and I just don't get it. I don't see what is funny.

MaggotEater

Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 225 Location: Pittsburgh

MaggotEater wrote:

groovey wrote:

MaggotEater wrote:

You actually think a movie can destroy the image and respect of black people?

You aren't giving them much credit are you?
It is no secret how hollywood has treated black people. Im not saying it destroys our image but young people look to popular culture and follow trends. You wont see jews portrayed as buffoons who dance around in mismatching clothes and speaking jibberish. What they (hollywood) used to do blatantly, They get a black person who is only interested in money to do. We often look to the small players and overlook the ones who control them. "THE EVIL EMPIRE". Then again we dont have an anti-defamation league to speak for us.

MaggotEater

Mel Brooks portrayed Jews as goofballs and so did Richard Lewis. The blue-collar fuck heads aren't hurting the blue collar folks are they?

Anti-defamation league because someone portrays a race in a movie in a manner that you don't like?

So, since young people follow trends we should stop something? Last time I checked the trend wasn't thinking that blacks dress as women in real life. Who knows. Maybe I'm wrong.

Just tell your kids it is lame.

No white dude is going to judge you based upon what he saw in a Tyler Perry movie. That is, if a white dude ever wanted to watch one. I've seen previews and commercials and I just don't get it. I don't see what is funny.

MaggotEater

Im not trying to cliche, but you cant speak for us or question us. We both are from pittsburgh and i know how racist this city is but im not trying to tell you about your people. This is something that is internal within the black family. Everytime we think there is some progress being made on our behalf within the entertainment stucture you see the maintream media pushing coonery on us. The actors you mentioned made "fun" of jews, They did'nt make a mockery of them and seek to belittle and demean them. I dont expect you to find these images offensive which is exactly the point, White people expect us to look and act like buffons. I grew up in my beloved homewood where i was taught how to be a man who does not shuck and jive or cowtow for anyone. Where did you grow up?

Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 217 Location: Stinktown

MaggotEater wrote:

No white dude is going to judge you based upon what he saw in a Tyler Perry movie. That is, if a white dude ever wanted to watch one. I've seen previews and commercials and I just don't get it. I don't see what is funny.

MaggotEater

You couldn't possibly be more wrong. Lots of people (of all cultures) look at stereotypes from movies, music and TV and accept them as fact. Been happening in Hollywood ever since the first big budget film.

Assuming that you are a Public Enemy fan since you post here, maybe you should listen to the song Burn Hollywood Burn again. They make it pretty obvious about Hollywood stereotypes and the effects on the people.

Joined: 02 May 2004 Posts: 8322 Location: Pittsburgh PA

I'm sorry, but "Driving Miss Daisy" doesn't make me think less of a race.

Idiocracy didn't set the white race back at all. Legally Blonde didn't set women back at all. Neither did Clueless or BAPS. Bio-dome only set the white race back about a month or so. It didn't do any real damage.

I've seen Birth of a Nation. At no point did I think less of blacks or want to join the Klan. If anything I felt less of whites. Is that wrong?

I grew up playing Super Mario Brothers and I only think a little less of Italian people after playing that game. However, my opinion was not high from the start.

The people who watch a movie and think less of a black person already think little of a black person and just use a movie to back up their opinion that is already there.

Nothing changed.

America recovered after watching Patrick Swayze, John, Leguizamo, and Wesley Snipes dressed up as chicks. We all agreed it was a shitty film and went back to our lives.

MaggotEater

Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 217 Location: Stinktown

MaggotEater wrote:

I'm sorry, but "Driving Miss Daisy" doesn't make me think less of a race.

Idiocracy didn't set the white race back at all. Legally Blonde didn't set women back at all. Neither did Clueless or BAPS. Bio-dome only set the white race back about a month or so. It didn't do any real damage.

I've seen Birth of a Nation. At no point did I think less of blacks or want to join the Klan. If anything I felt less of whites. Is that wrong?

I grew up playing Super Mario Brothers and I only think a little less of Italian people after playing that game. However, my opinion was not high from the start.

The people who watch a movie and think less of a black person already think little of a black person and just use a movie to back up their opinion that is already there.

Nothing changed.

America recovered after watching Patrick Swayze, John, Leguizamo, and Wesley Snipes dressed up as chicks. We all agreed it was a shitty film and went back to our lives.

MaggotEater

Now I see. Since you are enlightened and not affected by hollywood propaganda, that that must be true for everybody else. Thanks for clearing that up. It must have been co-incidence that Klan membership skyrocketed after Birth was shown.

Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 634

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Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Posts: 1757 Location: Albany, NY

If there is dirty water. all we can do is provide a clean glass of water and let the audience know that s/he has choices.

The audience has to take responsibility for the images they consume. You cannot scream for something better, yet refuse to pay for it and only want it in a bootleg form. How can Hollywood's Big 7 take black customers seriously when they see the numbers for films like SOUL PLANE?

The audience has to be consistent and stop being hypocrites. If you want films like DAUGHTERS OF THE DUST, put your money where your mouth is. Otherwise, Hollywood will continue to serve you massive portions of hoghead cheese.

Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 225 Location: Pittsburgh

MaggotEater wrote:

I'm sorry, but "Driving Miss Daisy" doesn't make me think less of a race.

Idiocracy didn't set the white race back at all. Legally Blonde didn't set women back at all. Neither did Clueless or BAPS. Bio-dome only set the white race back about a month or so. It didn't do any real damage.

I've seen Birth of a Nation. At no point did I think less of blacks or want to join the Klan. If anything I felt less of whites. Is that wrong?

I grew up playing Super Mario Brothers and I only think a little less of Italian people after playing that game. However, my opinion was not high from the start.

The people who watch a movie and think less of a black person already think little of a black person and just use a movie to back up their opinion that is already there.

Nothing changed.

America recovered after watching Patrick Swayze, John, Leguizamo, and Wesley Snipes dressed up as chicks. We all agreed it was a shitty film and went back to our lives.

MaggotEater

Typical southside thinkig.

Joined: 21 Apr 2009 Posts: 228 Location: 'Round the block.

Here's the thing.

White intellectuals bemoan the Hollywood machine that cranks out shitty sequels and TV ripoffs ... and common white folk still go to see them.

Black intellectuals criticize lowbrow minstrel-type movies as only fueling stereotypes ... and mainstream black America still goes to see these movies.

I'm no fan of brainless cinema. But in every culture, some people just don't want to be challenged.

Joined: 02 May 2004 Posts: 8322 Location: Pittsburgh PA

Dr. Tijuana wrote:

MaggotEater wrote:

I'm sorry, but "Driving Miss Daisy" doesn't make me think less of a race.

Idiocracy didn't set the white race back at all. Legally Blonde didn't set women back at all. Neither did Clueless or BAPS. Bio-dome only set the white race back about a month or so. It didn't do any real damage.

I've seen Birth of a Nation. At no point did I think less of blacks or want to join the Klan. If anything I felt less of whites. Is that wrong?

I grew up playing Super Mario Brothers and I only think a little less of Italian people after playing that game. However, my opinion was not high from the start.

The people who watch a movie and think less of a black person already think little of a black person and just use a movie to back up their opinion that is already there.

Nothing changed.

America recovered after watching Patrick Swayze, John, Leguizamo, and Wesley Snipes dressed up as chicks. We all agreed it was a shitty film and went back to our lives.

MaggotEater

Now I see. Since you are enlightened and not affected by hollywood propaganda, that that must be true for everybody else. Thanks for clearing that up. It must have been co-incidence that Klan membership skyrocketed after Birth was shown.

Sorry bro, but people tricked by Hollywood doesn't mean that making such films is wrong.

It's not going to change a damn thing if you stop making them either.

MaggotEater

Joined: 10 Jun 2008 Posts: 255 Location: Paisley Park

Yes Yes Yall wrote:

But wait. Not so fast. Not so got-damn-fast! Tyler Perry is all of above but he's not a "MOVIE DISTRIBUTOR".

So in order to keep his pockets fat and distributors happy and wealthy, these are the types of movies he's going to continue to make.

Spike Lee tried a more radical approach in his films but aways toned them down to suit the needs of producers and distributors and still was labeled controversial!

My point is, you can finance your entire project yourself but if you want to go national or even global, your project better coincide with the wants of the distributors. Because if there not, your project will only go as far as your friends and family.

I agree. and why doesn't Perry progress to owning his own distribution company? Is it the same reason athletes don't progres to owning their own atheletic teams?? or music entertainers don't progres to owning their own record labels out right?? They obviously have the money/resources.. so whats the problem?? why don't these people go all the way with owning and operating black businesses?? (instead of just 3/4 of the way where they still have to ultimately answer to someone that doesn't look like them and who may/may not have the interests of the black community at heart?!)

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Joined: 02 May 2004 Posts: 8322 Location: Pittsburgh PA

groovey wrote:

MaggotEater wrote:

I'm sorry, but "Driving Miss Daisy" doesn't make me think less of a race.

Idiocracy didn't set the white race back at all. Legally Blonde didn't set women back at all. Neither did Clueless or BAPS. Bio-dome only set the white race back about a month or so. It didn't do any real damage.

I've seen Birth of a Nation. At no point did I think less of blacks or want to join the Klan. If anything I felt less of whites. Is that wrong?

I grew up playing Super Mario Brothers and I only think a little less of Italian people after playing that game. However, my opinion was not high from the start.

The people who watch a movie and think less of a black person already think little of a black person and just use a movie to back up their opinion that is already there.

Nothing changed.

America recovered after watching Patrick Swayze, John, Leguizamo, and Wesley Snipes dressed up as chicks. We all agreed it was a shitty film and went back to our lives.

MaggotEater

Typical southside thinkig.

It would be nice if I actually lived on the Southside or wanted to even associate with those losers. I live far away from the city because I actually like to park in my garage and not have people pissing in my front yard. I only venture there to see a show and then quickly retreat back home.

Where in Pittsburgh are you?

Beavis and Butthead didn't make anyone think less of white people.

The people who see the films with a black man portrayed in a negative fashion will not go and start thinking of a black man that way. He already thought of him that way.

Remember, it didn't take the Junk Yard Dog to make millions of white trash wrestling fans racist. It was their parents and who they hung out with as kids that made them racist.

Are Tyler Perry films wrong just because you don't particularly like his films? Friday showed two unemployed black guys sitting on a porch smoking weed all day. How is that not just as bad as a black guy being a goofball?

MaggotEater